{"id":521,"date":"2018-08-20T22:59:17","date_gmt":"2018-08-21T05:59:17","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/bruceramsey.net\/?page_id=521"},"modified":"2020-02-20T16:56:09","modified_gmt":"2020-02-21T00:56:09","slug":"life-overseas-2012","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/bruceramsey.net\/index.php\/life-overseas-2012\/","title":{"rendered":"Life Overseas (2012)"},"content":{"rendered":"\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-page\" data-elementor-id=\"521\" class=\"elementor elementor-521 elementor-bc-flex-widget\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-7c6b108 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"7c6b108\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-5516747\" data-id=\"5516747\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-a2123bc elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"a2123bc\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"524\" height=\"350\" src=\"https:\/\/bruceramsey.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/HongKong.jpeg\" class=\"attachment-large size-large wp-image-722\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/bruceramsey.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/HongKong.jpeg 524w, https:\/\/bruceramsey.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/HongKong-300x200.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/bruceramsey.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/HongKong-337x226.jpeg 337w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 524px) 100vw, 524px\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-d686b0e elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"d686b0e\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><em>Hong Kong<\/em><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-2b004f6 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"2b004f6\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-ac89ab4\" data-id=\"ac89ab4\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-dd0c445 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"dd0c445\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0.1pt; font-size: 16pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style'; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; line-height: 16pt;\"><i><span style=\"font-size: 14pt; color: #303030;\">\u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0Every year in June I\u2019d read stories about what some celebrity said to graduating students. And I thought, \u201cWhat would I say? What that would be different from what other people said?\u201d The thing that came to mind was my experience living nearly four years overseas, from 1989 to 1993. As the slow season for column writing began, I wrote a column that ran in the Seattle Times of June 20, 2012.<\/span><\/i><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-4811e22 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"4811e22\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-963a6a1\" data-id=\"963a6a1\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-inner-section elementor-element elementor-element-6faf586 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"6faf586\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-50 elementor-inner-column elementor-element elementor-element-7fc1aee\" data-id=\"7fc1aee\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-f40ded9 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"f40ded9\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p style=\"margin: 0in 0in 8pt; font-size: 16pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style'; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; text-indent: 40.5pt; line-height: 19pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt; color: #303030;\">It is the time of year to dish out advice to graduates. Here is mine. Some time in your life, live outside the United States. Not only will you be in another world, you will more clearly see the world you came from, and who you are.<\/span><\/p><p style=\"margin: 0in 0in 8pt; font-size: 16pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style'; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; text-indent: 40.5pt; line-height: 19pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt; color: #303030;\">Sometimes it changes you. In a recent column, I argued that the U.S. government was acting wrongly in letting its embassy and consulates in China be used as sanctuaries. Readers emailed me for and against. Many of those who agreed with me said they had worked overseas.<\/span><\/p><p style=\"margin: 0in 0in 8pt; font-size: 16pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style'; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; text-indent: 40.5pt; line-height: 19pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt; color: #303030;\">So had I. From 1989 to 1993 I worked in Hong Kong as a magazine editor \u2014 and probably I would not have written that column otherwise.<\/span><\/p><p style=\"margin: 0in 0in 8pt; font-size: 16pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style'; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; text-indent: 40.5pt; line-height: 19pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt; color: #303030;\">Americans see themselves as a practical people, but from Hong Kong, Americans in their political aspect seemed like a sentimental people, a naive people.\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p style=\"margin: 0in 0in 8pt; font-size: 16pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style'; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; text-indent: 40.5pt; line-height: 19pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt; color: #303030;\">Ross Perot was running for president then, and he threatened to stop trading with China. To people in great big America, maybe such an action was thinkable; in Hong Kong, it was nuts. Our vegetables came from China. Our drinking water came from China. Perot seemed to have no understanding of the history, or the culture, of the Middle Kingdom.<\/span><\/p><p style=\"margin: 0in 0in 8pt; font-size: 16pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style'; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; text-indent: 40.5pt; line-height: 19pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt; color: #303030;\">That the Hong Kong people had a different view of it did not automatically make them right. About China, I thought they were. On other things, though, being overseas showed me how American I was, and in ways I was proud of.<\/span><\/p><p style=\"margin: 0in 0in 8pt; font-size: 16pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style'; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; text-indent: 40.5pt; line-height: 19pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt; color: #303030;\">One time I was sick and went to a doctor. After he examined me I had to wait outside his office for my prescription. A nurse called me to a window with bottles of pills.<\/span><\/p><p style=\"margin: 0in 0in 8pt; font-size: 16pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style'; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; text-indent: 40.5pt; line-height: 19pt;\"><span style=\"color: #303030; font-size: 14pt; text-indent: 40.5pt;\">\u201cTake a red one every four hours and a white one twice a day,\u201d she said.<\/span><\/p><p style=\"margin: 0in 0in 8pt; font-size: 16pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style'; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; text-indent: 40.5pt; line-height: 19pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt; color: #303030;\">\u201cWhat are they?\u201d I asked.<\/span><\/p><p style=\"margin: 0in 0in 8pt; font-size: 16pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style'; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; text-indent: 40.5pt; line-height: 19pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt; color: #303030;\">\u201cThey are your\u00a0<span style=\"font-style: italic;\">medication<\/span>,\u201d she said impatiently.<\/span><\/p><p style=\"margin: 0in 0in 8pt; font-size: 16pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style'; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; text-indent: 40.5pt; line-height: 19pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt; color: #303030;\">\u201cYeah, but &#8230; What\u00a0<span style=\"font-style: italic;\">are\u00a0<\/span>they?\u201d<\/span><\/p><p style=\"margin: 0in 0in 8pt; font-size: 16pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style'; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; text-indent: 40.5pt; line-height: 19pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt; color: #303030;\">\u201cThe doctor will have to tell you that, and he is with another patient. Shall I make another appointment?\u201d<\/span><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-50 elementor-inner-column elementor-element elementor-element-cc1461d\" data-id=\"cc1461d\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-89aa900 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"89aa900\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p style=\"margin: 0in 0in 8pt; font-size: 16pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style'; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; text-indent: 40.5pt; line-height: 19pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt; color: #303030;\">At that moment I had no sympathy for the culture around me.<\/span><\/p><p style=\"margin: 0in 0in 8pt; font-size: 16pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style'; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; text-indent: 40.5pt; line-height: 19pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt; color: #303030;\">I worked with people from a dozen countries. All were changed by working abroad, those from traditional cultures most of all.<\/span><\/p><p style=\"margin: 0in 0in 8pt; font-size: 16pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style'; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; text-indent: 40.5pt; line-height: 19pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt; color: #303030;\">A colleague from Pakistan told me that after living in a cosmopolitan city for several years, he could not go back to a traditional culture. He was\u00a0<i>contaminated<\/i>. I never heard a Westerner say that, but I heard plenty say that being abroad had changed their thinking.<\/span><\/p><p style=\"margin: 0in 0in 8pt; font-size: 16pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style'; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; text-indent: 40.5pt; line-height: 19pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt; color: #303030;\">Politically, they seemed less supportive of America throwing its weight around. It is more difficult to condemn a people, impose economic pain on them or drop bombs on them after you have lived among them \u2014 or among any people different from you. The world outside the United States seems much more immovable when you are in it.<\/span><\/p><p style=\"margin: 0in 0in 8pt; font-size: 16pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style'; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; text-indent: 40.5pt; line-height: 19pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt; color: #303030;\">\u00a0 I was a kid when the Peace Corps started, and I remember the hoopla about all the good it was going to do. It was going to change the world. I became skeptical of that, and decades later, when I met the agency&#8217;s director, I pressed her on it.<\/span><span style=\"color: #303030; font-size: 14pt; text-indent: 40.5pt;\">The agency&#8217;s improvement of the world was difficult to measure, she said. But one thing was sure. The Peace Corps had changed the young Americans who were in it. The experience opened their eyes. It set them on tracks to new careers \u2014 in academia, in the diplomatic service, in global business. It gave them friends overseas and joined them to a fraternity of former volunteers who recognized each other for the rest of their lives.<\/span><\/p><p style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 16pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style'; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; text-indent: 40.5pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt; color: #303030;\">And though I had never been in it, I knew what she was talking about.<\/span><\/p><p style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 16pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style'; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; text-indent: 40.5pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p>\u00a0<\/p><p style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 16pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style'; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; text-indent: 40.5pt;\"><em><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">\u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0\u00a9 2012 The Seattle Times<\/span><\/em><\/p><p style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 16pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style'; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; text-indent: 40.5pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 16pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style'; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; text-indent: 40.5pt;\"><i style=\"font-size: 16px; font-family: -webkit-standard;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style';\">Of course, President Kennedy would never have been able to sell the idea of the Peace Corps if he\u2019d said the principal beneficiaries would be the people who served in it.\u00a0<\/span><\/i><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Hong Kong \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0Every year in June I\u2019d read stories about what some celebrity said to graduating students. And I thought, \u201cWhat would I say? What that would be different from what other people said?\u201d The thing that came to mind was my experience living nearly four years overseas, from 1989 to 1993. 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