{"id":406,"date":"2018-08-04T16:46:42","date_gmt":"2018-08-04T23:46:42","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/bruceramsey.net\/?page_id=406"},"modified":"2026-07-18T09:18:08","modified_gmt":"2026-07-18T16:18:08","slug":"an-atheists-christmas-2008","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/bruceramsey.net\/index.php\/an-atheists-christmas-2008\/","title":{"rendered":"An Atheist&#8217;s Christmas (2008)"},"content":{"rendered":"\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-page\" data-elementor-id=\"406\" class=\"elementor elementor-406\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-f1feebb elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"f1feebb\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-27bc1ad\" data-id=\"27bc1ad\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-47a7446 elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"47a7446\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"525\" height=\"350\" src=\"https:\/\/bruceramsey.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/christmas.jpeg\" class=\"attachment-large size-large wp-image-706\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/bruceramsey.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/christmas.jpeg 525w, https:\/\/bruceramsey.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/christmas-300x200.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/bruceramsey.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/christmas-337x226.jpeg 337w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 525px) 100vw, 525px\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-101aea4 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"101aea4\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p style=\"margin: 0in 0in 15pt; font-size: 14pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style'; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; line-height: 19pt;\"><i>\u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0In 2008, my every-other-Wednesday column came up on Christmas Eve. There had been a spat over a Christian nativity scene on state property, and some atheists insisted on their right to put up an anti-Christian sign. Though I agreed with them in metaphysics, I thought what they\u2019d done was bad manners. My column ran in the Seattle Times on Dec. 24, 2008.<\/i><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-44aa0ee elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"44aa0ee\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-56a3022\" data-id=\"56a3022\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-inner-section elementor-element elementor-element-bd482a7 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"bd482a7\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-50 elementor-inner-column elementor-element elementor-element-cfd4c31\" data-id=\"cfd4c31\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-c70a9b6 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"c70a9b6\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 15pt; font-size: 14pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style'; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; line-height: 19pt;\">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;In Olympia, the atheists won. After Christmas 2008, there will be no Nativity scenes until further notice.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 15pt; font-size: 14pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style'; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; line-height: 19pt;\">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Here is one infidel not celebrating. My fellow rationalists, I think, are being unreasonable. Their anti-Christian sign is in poor taste. To denounce the festivities of other people\u2019s religions is ill-mannered.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 15pt; font-size: 14pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style'; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; line-height: 19pt;\">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Christmas is a holiday from work and strife, a day for tolerance and pardons. It is a day of family gathering and good food, of handing out presents and watching kids unwrap them, of carols and colored lights and decorated trees. At my house, a day for delicious N\u00fcrnberger Lebkuchen.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 15pt; font-size: 14pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style'; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; line-height: 19pt;\">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Much of my family is Christian, which gives them an extra reason to celebrate. That\u2019s all right. If they want to say grace at my table, they can. It\u2019s Christmas.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 15pt; font-size: 14pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style'; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; line-height: 19pt;\">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;It was in a generous spirit that Gov. Christine Gregoire allowed a Nativity scene to be placed in the Capitol. Then came the atheists demanding equal time to put up a sign attacking belief in God.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 15pt; font-size: 14pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style'; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; line-height: 19pt;\">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The atheists wanted to pick a fight. But Christmas isn\u2019t the time for a fight, and a Nativity scene is not a challenge.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 15pt; font-size: 14pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style'; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; line-height: 19pt;\">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;So there was a fight. Fox Network\u2019s Bill O\u2019Reilly goaded some 15,000 listeners nationwide to phone our governor and pester her about it. Three groups of believers got the state\u2019s permission to put up counterattacks. Jews asked for a menorah. Two nutball groups in Kansas asked to put up signs, one to warn Washingtonians that \u201cSanta Claus will take you to hell\u201d \u2014 thank you for that \u2014 and another to promote something called the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 15pt; font-size: 14pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style'; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; line-height: 19pt;\">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The state wisely let in the menorah and shut the door on the zanies from Kansas. A public-relations guy for the Department of General Administration explained the state could have no more displays because it had run out of room. More likely, someone had run out of patience.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 15pt; font-size: 14pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style'; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; line-height: 19pt;\">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;The progressive thought about all this was that it was inevitable. The state cannot discriminate \u2014 so the progressive believes \u2014 therefore, it may declare&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 15pt; font-size: 14pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style'; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; line-height: 19pt;\">\n<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-50 elementor-inner-column elementor-element elementor-element-f34d7a6\" data-id=\"f34d7a6\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-cc12e05 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"cc12e05\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 15pt; font-size: 14pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style'; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; line-height: 19pt;\">the walls of its buildings closed to public scrawl or fully open. If that\u2019s the choice, the policy on displays is obvious. As countless Internet voices have said: \u201cTake them all down.\u201d<\/p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 15pt; font-size: 14pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style'; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; line-height: 19pt;\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0How liberal we are.<\/p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 15pt; font-size: 14pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style'; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; line-height: 19pt;\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0Government does not, however, follow a rule of nondiscrimination on other beliefs. It boldly promotes competitiveness, ethnic diversity, anti-homophobia, parental responsibility, riding the bus, biodiesel, local produce and cloth grocery bags, all without offering heretics a right of reply. It funds ethnic celebrations. Can it not have a temporary Nativity scene?<\/p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 15pt; font-size: 14pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style'; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; line-height: 19pt;\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0A certain kind of mind sees a Nativity display as a Christian recruitment poster. It misses that it is also a piece of art celebrating a festival that has existed in Western culture for nearly 2,000 years. If a government art museum has a painting of Mary and Jesus, is it obliged to have sign denouncing the Christian church? No. Art is protected \u2014 even anti-religious art. Especially that.<\/p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 15pt; font-size: 14pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style'; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; line-height: 19pt;\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0What of a Nativity scene?<\/p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 15pt; font-size: 14pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style'; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; line-height: 19pt;\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0America has separated church and state. That is from the First Amendment. It does not mandate, though, that the state shun the church. It proclaims only that religion shall be free of political control, and that government \u201cshall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.\u201d That means no official religion.<\/p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 15pt; font-size: 14pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style'; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; line-height: 19pt;\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0Surely, to put up a Nativity display for a few weeks is not to declare Christianity the official religion, especially if there are displays for other religious festivals at other times or places.<\/p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 15pt; font-size: 14pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style'; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; line-height: 19pt;\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0Once you let in one religion, the progressive asks, where to draw the line? I think of the Post Office. It offers commemorative stamps for Christmas, Hanukkah, Eid, Kwanzaa and an unspecific holiday. Five choices.<\/p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 15pt; font-size: 14pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style'; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; line-height: 19pt;\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0We infidels don\u2019t get a stamp. That is all right. We have Bette Davis stamps.<\/p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 14pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style'; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000;\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0Merry Christmas to you all.<\/p><p>\u00a0<\/p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 14pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style'; caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; text-align: center;\"><em>\u00a9 2008 The Seattle Times<\/em><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0In 2008, my every-other-Wednesday column came up on Christmas Eve. There had been a spat over a Christian nativity scene on state property, and some atheists insisted on their right to put up an anti-Christian sign. Though I agreed with them in metaphysics, I thought what they\u2019d done was bad manners. 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